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LadyFlo

 Number of posts: 2224 Location: Decatur, GA Say Whatever: Luv me as I am cuz u can't be me and I can't and don't wanna be u! My Mood:  Points: 213 Registration date: 2008-04-22
 | Subject: Roy Belfast Jr. A/K/A Chuckie Taylor Convicted on Torture Charges Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:38 am | |
| A federal jury in Miami today convicted Roy M. Belfast Jr. of crimes related to the torture of people in Liberia between April 1999 and July 2003, the Department of Justice and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) announced. Belfast, 31, a/k/a Chuckie Taylor, Charles Taylor Jr., Charles Taylor II and Charles McArther Emmanuel, was convicted of five counts of torture, one count of conspiracy to torture, one count of using a firearm during the commission of a violent crime and one count of conspiracy to use a firearm during the commission of a violent crime. Belfast, the son of former Liberian President Charles Taylor, was charged in a November 2007 superseding indictment with torture, conspiracy to commit torture, using a firearm during a crime of violence and conspiracy to use a firearm during a crime of violence. http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Roy-Belfast-Jr-AKA-Chuckie/story.aspx?guid=%7B629A1ACB-5E4B-4198-AD93-03E118A32F4C%7D |
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candygirl Admin

 Number of posts: 5911 Location: Monrovia, Liberia Say Whatever: Laughter is the best medicine My Mood:  Points: 2226 Registration date: 2008-03-31
 | Subject: Re: Roy Belfast Jr. A/K/A Chuckie Taylor Convicted on Torture Charges Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:17 pm | |
| _________________ For how can love attain true appreciation if it has never weathered tribulation? ~MHK
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DSP

 Number of posts: 940 Points: 1946 Registration date: 2008-04-02
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candygirl Admin

 Number of posts: 5911 Location: Monrovia, Liberia Say Whatever: Laughter is the best medicine My Mood:  Points: 2226 Registration date: 2008-03-31
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candygirl Admin

 Number of posts: 5911 Location: Monrovia, Liberia Say Whatever: Laughter is the best medicine My Mood:  Points: 2226 Registration date: 2008-03-31
 | Subject: Re: Roy Belfast Jr. A/K/A Chuckie Taylor Convicted on Torture Charges Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:07 pm | |
| in cases like chuckie, whatever means it takes/took to get him to pay for his crimes, i say it was/is worth it.
this young man was cruel.. sadistic. _________________ For how can love attain true appreciation if it has never weathered tribulation? ~MHK
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DSP

 Number of posts: 940 Points: 1946 Registration date: 2008-04-02
 | Subject: Re: Roy Belfast Jr. A/K/A Chuckie Taylor Convicted on Torture Charges Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:01 pm | |
| | candygirl wrote: | in cases like chuckie, whatever means it takes/took to get him to pay for his crimes, i say it was/is worth it.
this young man was cruel.. sadistic. |
Candy I understand your emotion completely
At the same time it is the inconsistency that bothers me
For every Chucky there are many like him that are still free in this world
If the current US Administration had liked his family you think he would still be convicted?
Where does it stop? |
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LadyFlo

 Number of posts: 2224 Location: Decatur, GA Say Whatever: Luv me as I am cuz u can't be me and I can't and don't wanna be u! My Mood:  Points: 213 Registration date: 2008-04-22
 | Subject: Re: Roy Belfast Jr. A/K/A Chuckie Taylor Convicted on Torture Charges Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:33 pm | |
| it doesn't stop DSP and thats the world we live in.. u can hate it or say hell i'm gonna do something in my own lil way to change it. a group of lawyer could have asked or petition for his trial to be held in Liberia but who knows how that wud have turned out. probably u wont have as much evidence or demonstration from his supporters.. i'm only listing possibilities.. so dont hit the roof.. lol.. but seriously, his conviction is a start to some sort of justice for the victims... |
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DSP

 Number of posts: 940 Points: 1946 Registration date: 2008-04-02
 | Subject: Re: Roy Belfast Jr. A/K/A Chuckie Taylor Convicted on Torture Charges Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:35 pm | |
| | LadyFlo wrote: | | it doesn't stop DSP and thats the world we live in.. u can hate it or say hell i'm gonna do something in my own lil way to change it. a group of lawyer could have asked or petition for his trial to be held in Liberia but who knows how that wud have turned out. probably u wont have as much evidence or demonstration from his supporters.. i'm only listing possibilities.. so dont hit the roof.. lol.. but seriously, his conviction is a start to some sort of justice for the victims... |
Yeah it's a start, but how about addressing our own scizophrenia first. We need to have basic collective self respect, if we had that there wouldn't be any Chuckies
Too many of us dont like living good |
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bellah

 Number of posts: 1571 Say Whatever: \ Points: 3217 Registration date: 2008-04-03
 | Subject: Re: Roy Belfast Jr. A/K/A Chuckie Taylor Convicted on Torture Charges Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:02 am | |
| Justice has being served and to all he victimized, this is a day of closure. I know their souls is resiting in perfect peace. It is the beginning of the era where those who perpetrated heinous crime against the Liberian pepo and friends of Liberia will have to face justice one day. Justice delay is justice deny....
People will have to be careful when they have power in their hand and this is a warning for Fumba Sirleaf- the son of President Ellen J. Sirleaf et al. We hope all Liberians will respect the rule of Law and treat their fellow men will respect irrespective of their beliefs, creed, sex, race, political affiliation etc..... |
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Traveller

 Number of posts: 1145 Points: 562 Registration date: 2008-04-24
 | Subject: Re: Roy Belfast Jr. A/K/A Chuckie Taylor Convicted on Torture Charges Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:05 am | |
| All I know is karma is a beotch! Chukkie thought he had it made at one point and became convinced of his own invincibility. Now he is receiving a just recompense for his actions. Granted, the conviction also serves a US need to say publicly that they have in fact convicted someone for torture (never mind that the convicted here has nothing to do with Abu Ghraib or Afghanistan). |
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rberry

 Number of posts: 437 Points: 197 Registration date: 2008-04-25
 | Subject: Re: Roy Belfast Jr. A/K/A Chuckie Taylor Convicted on Torture Charges Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:11 am | |
| As my late Dad used to say, God doesn't like urgly oohhh.. |
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bellah

 Number of posts: 1571 Say Whatever: \ Points: 3217 Registration date: 2008-04-03
 | Subject: Re: Roy Belfast Jr. A/K/A Chuckie Taylor Convicted on Torture Charges Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:19 am | |
| | Traveller wrote: | | All I know is karma is a beotch! Chukkie thought he had it made at one point and became convinced of his own invincibility. Now he is receiving a just recompense for his actions. Granted, the conviction also serves a US need to say publicly that they have in fact convicted someone for torture (never mind that the convicted here has nothing to do with Abu Ghraib or Afghanistan). |
I agreed with u and this one of the reasons the US doesn't wan to subject hersef to the world court. I think the fact that Chuckie was a US citizen, made it easier for them to try him in the US. |
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LadyFlo

 Number of posts: 2224 Location: Decatur, GA Say Whatever: Luv me as I am cuz u can't be me and I can't and don't wanna be u! My Mood:  Points: 213 Registration date: 2008-04-22
 | Subject: Re: Roy Belfast Jr. A/K/A Chuckie Taylor Convicted on Torture Charges Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:31 am | |
| | DSP wrote: | | LadyFlo wrote: | | it doesn't stop DSP and thats the world we live in.. u can hate it or say hell i'm gonna do something in my own lil way to change it. a group of lawyer could have asked or petition for his trial to be held in Liberia but who knows how that wud have turned out. probably u wont have as much evidence or demonstration from his supporters.. i'm only listing possibilities.. so dont hit the roof.. lol.. but seriously, his conviction is a start to some sort of justice for the victims... |
Yeah it's a start, but how about addressing our own scizophrenia first. We need to have basic collective self respect, if we had that there wouldn't be any Chuckies
Too many of us dont like living good |
self respect??? how can u relate this to that.. is it lack of self respect that cause someone to torture the other.. or lack of respect that Liberia may not have the resources at this time do what needs to be done (know that getting evidence, witnesses, even their protection aint cheap).. if they have to beg at this time.. dammit i say beg.. hell most Liberians living in foreign lands do shitty jobs yet they look down on folks that so the same back home.. where's the self respect there.. i hear what u're saying but some of us take the self respect too far that it becomes pride.. and if u let ur pride hold u too high u aint gonna get nowhere.. there aint no crime in accepting help when u aint got the hands to help urself just yet.. it doesnt mean u gotta be in that position all through |
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DSP

 Number of posts: 940 Points: 1946 Registration date: 2008-04-02
 | Subject: Re: Roy Belfast Jr. A/K/A Chuckie Taylor Convicted on Torture Charges Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:04 am | |
| It does relate. I dont think self respect has anything to do with pride. When you respect yourself you respect where you live and the people that live there with you. People who respect themselve don't behave so. | LadyFlo wrote: | | DSP wrote: | | LadyFlo wrote: | | it doesn't stop DSP and thats the world we live in.. u can hate it or say hell i'm gonna do something in my own lil way to change it. a group of lawyer could have asked or petition for his trial to be held in Liberia but who knows how that wud have turned out. probably u wont have as much evidence or demonstration from his supporters.. i'm only listing possibilities.. so dont hit the roof.. lol.. but seriously, his conviction is a start to some sort of justice for the victims... |
Yeah it's a start, but how about addressing our own scizophrenia first. We need to have basic collective self respect, if we had that there wouldn't be any Chuckies
Too many of us dont like living good |
self respect??? how can u relate this to that.. is it lack of self respect that cause someone to torture the other.. or lack of respect that Liberia may not have the resources at this time do what needs to be done (know that getting evidence, witnesses, even their protection aint cheap).. if they have to beg at this time.. dammit i say beg.. hell most Liberians living in foreign lands do shitty jobs yet they look down on folks that so the same back home.. where's the self respect there.. i hear what u're saying but some of us take the self respect too far that it becomes pride.. and if u let ur pride hold u too high u aint gonna get nowhere.. there aint no crime in accepting help when u aint got the hands to help urself just yet.. it doesnt mean u gotta be in that position all through |
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bellah

 Number of posts: 1571 Say Whatever: \ Points: 3217 Registration date: 2008-04-03
 | Subject: Re: Roy Belfast Jr. A/K/A Chuckie Taylor Convicted on Torture Charges Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:06 am | |
| "hell most Liberians living in foreign lands do shitty jobs yet they look down on folks that so the same back home." say Floro...
Now the reason most liberians do these jobs here is because there is no opportunity for them in their own country. I admire Liberians for adjusting and coping with the reality here. In the same token, i encourage Liberian to go to school and prepare themselves for here and the world at large while doing these shitty jobs as my sister said. I have a problem with those who are during the shitty job and forgo education. They do these shitty jobs and wan to live about their means which doesn't create an environment for them to go to school.
This country give u financial aid and loans to go to school and expect u to pay the loan back when u are done. how many country in the world can provide such an opportunity not Liberia though. Liberians leave from here and fail to provide such an opportunity to their people. Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy???? Is the million dollar question...... |
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