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krazzy
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 |  Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen  Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:53 pm | |
|  true dat. do they do mandatory HIV testing? |
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Traveller
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:54 pm | |
| | krazzy wrote: | | true dat. do they do mandatory HIV testing? |
Yes. We had to do mandatory HIV testing and drug testing quite frequently. AND we were "encouraged" to give blood to the red cross frequently too. |
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krazzy
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:58 pm | |
| | dats wht they do here too. wonder why? if u r hiv +, u cannot join the army? |
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:00 pm | |
| i think the rationale is that HIV positive peopel are more prone to illness thereby makign them weak and not readily always fro combat..
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:00 pm | |
| | krazzy wrote: | | dats wht they do here too. wonder why? if u r hiv +, u cannot join the army? |
No, no. If you are HIV positive and another soldier is injured and needs a transfusion, the HIV positive soldier can't be used. I also think in the US there is a concern about providing long term care for a soldier who is terminal for all practical intents. |
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:01 pm | |
| | candygirl wrote: | | i think the rationale is that HIV positive peopel are more prone to illness thereby makign them weak and not readily always fro combat.. |
Yep, that too. |
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krazzy
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:03 pm | |
| but da nah true o. maybe dey cannot give blood bt until they get AIDS, dey may be able to 'operate' like me who do not know my status  |
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:12 pm | |
| so you saying that the knowledge that one has HIV makes them ill?
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:16 pm | |
| | no, ma. an hiv + person is not necessarily weak. they are more prone to opportunistic infections but with their drugs, they can move about like you and myself. when the HIV moves to AIDS, that is when they are very sick and may not be able to work. |
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:16 pm | |
| | krazzy wrote: | | but da nah true o. maybe dey cannot give blood bt until they get AIDS, dey may be able to 'operate' like me who do not know my status |
That's why they do mandatory testing like every 2-3 months or so. They want to know your status and they want you to know your status. Funny thing is, military folks in the US are promiscuous like hell! |
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:17 pm | |
| | krazzy wrote: | | no, ma. an hiv + person is not necessarily weak. they are more prone to opportunistic infections but with their drugs, they can move about like you and myself. when the HIV moves to AIDS, that is when they are very sick and may not be able to work. |
but its inevitable that the virus moves from the HIV status to the AIDS with time, right??
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:17 pm | |
| | abt 40% of our staff (HIV coordinators) are living positively. |
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:18 pm | |
| | Traveller wrote: | | krazzy wrote: | | but da nah true o. maybe dey cannot give blood bt until they get AIDS, dey may be able to 'operate' like me who do not know my status |
That's why they do mandatory testing like every 2-3 months or so. They want to know your status and they want you to know your status. Funny thing is, military folks in the US are promiscuous like hell! |
why is that?
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:18 pm | |
| | krazzy wrote: | | no, ma. an hiv + person is not necessarily weak. they are more prone to opportunistic infections but with their drugs, they can move about like you and myself. when the HIV moves to AIDS, that is when they are very sick and may not be able to work. |
Right and the militatry is trying to guard against those kinds of infections given the unique conditions of the battlefield. |
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krazzy
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:20 pm | |
| | candy, yes. the arvs will slow down the movement. this means that, for some people, their productive years (working, having kids) shd not be wasted because of the perception that once u have hiv, it is time to close shop. |
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