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gadyu
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 |  Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen  Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:00 am | |
| | bellah wrote: | | Traveller wrote: | | So Bellah where do YOU stand on women's rights? |
Well i think women's right is human's right and it is fundamental to how we can be inclusive in building a better country. I respect women's right and will do eveything to protect it within the confines of the Law... |
If it is not in the confines of the law, he will NOT DO IT.....if he can get away with it with a good lawyer, HE WILL.
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heru1976
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:14 am | |
| | gadyu wrote: | | bellah wrote: | | Traveller wrote: | | So Bellah where do YOU stand on women's rights? |
Well i think women's right is human's right and it is fundamental to how we can be inclusive in building a better country. I respect women's right and will do eveything to protect it within the confines of the Law... |
If it is not in the confines of the law, he will NOT DO IT.....if he can get away with it with a good lawyer, HE WILL.
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bellah
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:34 pm | |
| | Samukai is ready to bring new idea to the presidency and will like to take Liberia forward and not backward.........He plans to hold an all Liberian Conference to discuss the decadence issues facing Liberia.. |
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Traveller
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:54 pm | |
| | Bellah, do you think Samukai is even intested in the presidency? |
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bellah
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:01 pm | |
| | I am just dumbing out names that i think could be the next President in Liberia. People who i believe can give Ellen a run for her money if she is greedy to contest in 2011... |
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krazzy
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:10 am | |
| bellah...samukai and this women's rights...how many women in the new army?  my lungs  |
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bellah
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:59 pm | |
| | krazzy wrote: | | bellah...samukai and this women's rights...how many women in the new army? my lungs |
KR, i learned that most of the women still don't want to join the army ohhhhhh, It is not Samukai's problem. All the women will have to do is apply and let see whether they will deny them. Dey say in Liberia, most of the women like the "Three Cs" meaning Car, Cell phone, and Cash instead of hussling. |
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krazzy
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:06 pm | |
| da nah true o. ask someone who will tell u the truth. the army has requirements that most women do not meet. some people started talking abt affrimative action on this. dont know how far it went. that is why i asked abt your candidate :) dey men like the three Cs too. :  |
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Traveller
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:59 pm | |
| | krazzy wrote: | | .........the army has requirements that most women do not meet.......... |
What are those requirements? That really doesn't make sense? Why wuold you purposely exclude potential soldiers? |
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krazzy
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:11 pm | |
| | requirments like high school diploma; the push was for potential female candidates (10th/11th grades) could join. another was to have a quota system- 30% compulsory female inclusion in the new army. that did not work out either. |
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Traveller
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:15 pm | |
| | Re the HS diploma, is the problem that many women do not have a diploma? How did so many men obtain the diploma? As for quota system, so they wanted the army to be at least 30% female? What did they do to actively recruit women into the ranks? Are there many female officers and NCOs right now? I also wonder how much American military culture may have rubbed off on the local authorities since Americans largely did the training. |
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krazzy
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:31 pm | |
| | Traveller wrote: |
Re the HS diploma, is the problem that many women do not have a diploma? How did so many men obtain the diploma? More men have completed high school than women. retention and completion issues are sometimes directly related to WRs one...teenage pregnancy, lack of economic support, generally violence against girls in schools. remember the story of the school in bomi? additionally, by the time girls reach secondary school level here, they become targets (sexual) for teachers and the % of girls completing drop by 12th grade. last year, only one girl did the national exams in gbarpolu-the entire county.
As for quota system, so they wanted the army to be at least 30% female? What did they do to actively recruit women into the ranks? the min of gender got the message out abt recruitment; and provided logistics for women all over the country to get to monrovia. information campaigns were also conducted for women to understnad that the army was for everyone.
Are there many female officers and NCOs right now? yes, but not sure of percentage
I also wonder how much American military culture may have rubbed off on the local authorities since Americans largely did the training. not sure o, but the training is about 95% dyncorps. exclusively american.
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Traveller
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:35 pm | |
| | krazzy wrote: | | Traveller wrote: |
.........last year, only one girl did the national exams in gbarpolu-the entire county.
.....................the training is about 95% dyncorps. exclusively american.
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Only one girl??? Goodness! Re Dyncorp, I knew about that and given American attitudes towards women in the militayr (and specifically women in combat roles), I imagine someof that may have rubbed off. Now the defense minister was trained here by the US militayr and at least one deputy minister actually servced for at least a decade in the US military. I wonder what their take was. |
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krazzy
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:39 pm | |
| yes o! i did not know that one abt the attitude towards women in the military. yep o...dey lor be telling them they are too lazy or they are dumbasses  |
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Traveller
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| | Subject: Re: J. Brownie Samukai to succeed Ma Ellen Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:48 pm | |
| | krazzy wrote: | | yes o! i did not know that one abt the attitude towards women in the military. yep o...dey lor be telling them they are too lazy or they are dumbasses |
Yes, over here women are allowed to serve but not to serve in combat capacities. They have similar attitudes about Gays serving but no one has REALLY challenged the "don't ask don't tell" law. When I was in the military, my belief was that if I'm in a foxhole or manning a position, I want to person next to me to know how to shoot. Period, end of story. Don't care about their gender or sexual preference. |
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